tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-146240382024-03-13T07:42:40.288+00:00On Earth as in Heaventhis is a place dedicated to musings about the work of God in fulfilling the prayer that things may be 'on earth as in heaven'. it is about 'mission' as part of God's mission to bring this about. it is about how that is coming to birth in a post Christendom world and how faith is expresssed and lived out in this new world and it's many cultures.Stevehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04475918926743850643noreply@blogger.comBlogger43125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14624038.post-61785812291717567432015-03-13T11:22:00.000+00:002015-03-13T11:31:33.952+00:00Revolution, Evolution or Good Disagreement?<div class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: justify;">
This post is prompted by a number
of things that have left me pondering how as Christians we are to bring about change
in our churches. When we strongly
believe in an issue of justice and yet find that opposed. It is one thing to
fight for justice against a government or institution, but what if the struggle
is within your own institution? Indeed among the very people who share the
faith that inspires our desire to see change? When those we oppose are our
brothers and sisters in that faith?<o:p></o:p></div>
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The Church of England, which I am
a part of, has just allowed women to be bishops. This is follows efforts to
bring around an acceptance of women as ministers and bishop that has spanned
several decades. At various points through our synod system in which three
houses of lay people, priests and Bishops must all support any change by a
2/3rds majority the move was almost made and then lost by only one group note
voting in favour by a big enough margin. In reality for years a minority
stopped the change that most desired. And yet now we have finally got there.
Are there still those opposed? Yes, and not without controversy most have
stayed in the church but with provision made for them whilst acknowledging that
women are now bishops to largely avoid their ministry. It is still too early to
know how this compromise will work, but for now it is working. Those who
strongly disagree are finding some way forward together, if it is yet still a
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The issue of equal recognition
for those in same sex relationships and equal marriage is much further back.
There is a strong growing voice seeking change but at present in the church
structures this is a minority voice. Amid strong feelings on both sides the
church is trying to facilitate what it is calling ‘good disagreement’. <a href="http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/religion/10600411/Church-of-England-bishops-we-agree-on-one-thing-that-we-cant-agree-on-homosexuality.html">http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/religion/10600411/Church-of-England-bishops-we-agree-on-one-thing-that-we-cant-agree-on-homosexuality.html</a>
The hope is that those on differing sides of the discussion can listen to each
other and find some place of understanding those and acknowledging the faith of
those whom they disagree with. I have recently been part of an informal online
discussion seeking to put this into practice.
It has not been easy! On the one hand are many who have been
marginalised, rejected and deeply wounded because of their belief that they are
called to be Christians in same sex relationships. Many of these are angry and
don’t want to hear anymore the words and attitudes they have faced. On the
other people who believe that the acceptance of same sex relationships is a
fundamental abandonment of morality. With
such a backdrop it was perhaps no surprise if some of the disagreement was
anything but ‘good’. Indeed from both sides there a voices suspicious that
‘good disagreement’ is just an attempt to brush the issue under the carpet.
There are also those on both sides who think the only solution is for the
church to split. The only way forward for us not to be in the same church.
Indeed it is clear some on both sides can no longer really accept that the
others are even Christian. Moving on to a place in which change might happen
and this find support with provision for those who disagreed so they could
remain together seems at best a long way off, let alone good disagreement. In spite of this there was also much good from many people of all positions in that discussion and therefore some hope. <o:p></o:p></div>
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Working
for change is not easy, indeed it can be very costly and take great courage.
The film Selma, about the US Civil Rights Movement, has been showing recently
in the UK. The trailer poster boldly proclaims ‘one dream can change the
world’. This connects us to one of the 20<sup>th</sup> century’s great
speeches, Martin Luther King declaring ‘I have a dream…’ This is full of famous
passages often quoted and played, indeed even used in pop songs. We remember it
not just for the great rhetoric, but because it encapsulates a way of working
for civil rights that was both prepared to have courage and yet also sought
peaceful change. A terrorist movement was a real alternative. When King gave that speech in Washington in
1963 he had already been campaigning for desegregation for 8 years. In 1964
this led to a bill ending desegregation in the south but on the ground in many
places it was not implemented. The Selma marches that the film is named after
happened in response to segregation in 1965. King was still campaigning when he
was shot dead in 1968. <o:p></o:p></div>
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I wonder what King would say to
those who dream of justice in our churches and the end of segregation on
account of sexual orientation? Perhaps these words from that speech are ones
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‘There will be neither rest nor
tranquillity in America until the Negro is granted his citizenship rights. The
whirlwinds of revolt will continue to shake the foundations of our nation until
the bright day of justice emerges.<o:p></o:p></div>
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But there is something that I
must say to my people, who stand on the warm threshold which leads into the
palace of justice: In the process of gaining our rightful place, we must not be
guilty of wrongful deeds. Let us not seek to satisfy our thirst for freedom by
drinking from the cup of bitterness and hatred. We must forever conduct our
struggle on the high plane of dignity and discipline. We must not allow our
creative protest to degenerate into physical violence. Again and again, we must
rise to the majestic heights of meeting physical force with soul force.<o:p></o:p></div>
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The marvellous new militancy
which has engulfed the Negro community must not lead us to a distrust of all
white people, for many of our white brothers, as evidenced by their presence
here today, have come to realize that their destiny is tied up with our
destiny. And they have come to realize that their freedom is inextricably bound
to our freedom.<o:p></o:p></div>
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We cannot walk alone.<o:p></o:p></div>
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And as we walk, we must make the
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It is King’s passion not to give
up, yet to go on embracing those who would oppose, even with violence that
gives the ‘soul force’ to his dream. The realisation that they cannot walk
alone, and yet cannot turn back. This is a hard road and one that must at times
have seemed intolerable, but it is the road that reflects the one who called us
to love our enemies and do good to those who hate us, let alone when we feel
those are members of our own family of faith. <o:p></o:p></div>
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Good disagreement? As part of
learning to understand and love the other perhaps. As a long term solution? No.
yet revolution cannot be the answer either, the overcoming or expelling of the
other is not an option for those who follow Christ the one who seeks to
reconcile and include all. And so with King we are called to the slow and
painful path that does not turn back, but seeks to draw all together not
through violence or power, but with love and a strong belief that we truly are
brothers and sisters in Christ.<o:p></o:p></div>
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Below is a link to Martin Luther King’s speech in full, it remains well worth
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Stevehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04475918926743850643noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14624038.post-76401349549204608722015-01-20T23:53:00.001+00:002015-01-20T23:53:23.567+00:00Je Suis Charlie? what would Jesus do? exploring some slogans a little further<div class="entry-content" style="font-family: Georgia, Helvetica, Tahoma, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;">
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in our social media age slogans with punch spread fast. following the<img alt="07-charlie-hebdo-rallies-003.w529.h352.2x" class="alignright size-medium wp-image-4813" height="199" src="http://wp.production.patheos.com/blogs/emergentvillage/files/2015/01/07-charlie-hebdo-rallies-003.w529.h352.2x-300x199.jpg" style="display: inline; float: right; margin: 0px 0px 10px 10px; max-width: 98%;" width="300" /> events in Paris earlier this month it is not surprising that ‘Je Suis Charlie’ has been much used in solidarity with the cartoonists at satirical French magazine Charlie Hebdo gunned down by Islamic fighters on account of their portrayals of Mohammed. Many of my Christian friends still have as their Facebook image the sign for a Christian used by ISIS to identify houses lived in by Christ<img alt="nunsymbol1" class="alignleft wp-image-4814" height="143" src="http://wp.production.patheos.com/blogs/emergentvillage/files/2015/01/nunsymbol1-300x300.jpg" style="border: 1px solid rgb(221, 221, 221); display: inline; float: left; margin: 0px 10px 10px 0px; max-width: none; padding: 4px;" width="143" />ians before they are forced to pay taxes under a form of Shari law or be killed. both symbols are about the power of identification, a show of solidarity with those attacked by saying ‘I am one with you, I too am attacked’. Most powerfully both symbols have been used by Muslims to show their solidarity with others against those Muslims who are the perpetrators of the violence. This response is understandable indeed in some cases very brave. People identifying with each other, especially across potential cultural, racial or religious divisions, is something i think we should all support. our world needs reconciliation when there is so much division and prejudice. Yet i have found myself sympathizing with a number of voices who want to condemn what happened in Paris bu questioning if they really want to say ‘I am Charlie’. One of the most eloquent is this piece in the Huffington Post by Rabbi Michael Lerner <a class="ext-link" data-wpel-target="_blank" href="http://www.huffingtonpost.com/rabbi-michael-lerner/mourning-the-parisian-jou_b_6442550.html" rel="external nofollow" sl-processed="1" style="color: #0066cc;" title="">http://www.huffingtonpost.com/rabbi-michael-lerner/mourning-the-parisian-jou_b_6442550.html</a>. he is editor of liberal Jewish magazine Tikkun. The word Tikkun means to mend or rectify and is often used in the phrase Tikkun Olam, the mending or healing of the world. Yet as a liberal magazine it has often questioned the actions of the Israeli state and as a result has suffered terrorist attacks by Zionist Jews and Christians. These, Lerner notes, do not get the attention of attacks by Muslims in France. Others, myself included, have been uncomfortable about an apparent blanket support for all forms of free speech and particularity Charlie Hebdo’s covers which i think are often offensive to many more than Muslims <a class="ext-link" data-wpel-target="_blank" href="http://freethoughtblogs.com/teacosy/2015/01/08/we-should-not-kill-people-for-speech-but-i-am-not-charlie-hebdo/" rel="external nofollow" sl-processed="1" style="color: #0066cc;" title="">http://freethoughtblogs.com/teacosy/2015/01/08/we-should-not-kill-people-for-speech-but-i-am-not-charlie-hebdo/ </a>. some notable examples would include a picture of the three persons of the Trinity having anal sex, depictions of Jews that look like Nazi propaganda as well as numerous portrayals of Mohammed in a similar vein. in response to this i think there is an intelligent debate about the value of free speech. we rightly value this and we do not want to live in societies in which arbitrary power and corruption thrive on the silencing of criticism, not in which petty lawsuits succeed off the back of honest comment or humour. Yet, in truth defamation cases abound in a society that deems some forms of free speech criminal, in some cases no doubt rightly so but often on the basis of the power and wealth of those offended. as many have pointed out Muslims in France are neither wealthy or powerful. i am here with Lerner when he says.</div>
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“And shouldn’t free speech and individual human liberties be our highest value? This value that is put into danger if you ask for some kind of responsibility from comedians.” Two responses: 1. No, individaul human liberties is not our highest value. Our highest value is treating human beings with love, kindness, generosity, respect and see them as embodiments of the holy, and treating the earth as sacred. Individual liberty is a strategy to promote this highest value, but when that liberty gets abused (as for example in demeaning women, African Americans, gays in public discourse) we often insist that the articulators of racism, sexism and homophobia be publicly humiliated (not shut down, but using our free speech to vigorously challenge theirs). 2. Free speech is not defeated when we use it to try to marginalize hateful or demeaning speech. So lets call demeaning speech, including demeaning humor, what it really is — an assault on the dignity of human beings.</div>
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Charlie Hebdo have not surprisingly issued a massively sold post attack edition with a cartoon of Mohammed on the front. In a sense they had to. the cartoon however, is not straightforward. The depiction of Mohammed will offend many Muslims who believe the prophet must not be depicted, and the depiction is in classic Hebdo style with a large nose and funny coloured skin. so far so expected. The text though is more complex. The headline runs ‘all is forgiven’ and the prophet is depicted with a tear rolling down his cheek and carrying a sign that says ‘Je Suis Charlie’. A previous cartoon of the prophet had him being beheaded by an ISIS fighter. Both may be read, and i think are intended to be read, as suggesting Mohammed would not be on the side of groups like ISIS or the attackers of the Hebdo cartoonists. Indeed Muslims have carried ‘Je Suis Charlie’ signs because this is their belief. Yet in other cartoons Mohammed’s depiction is connected to elements of Islam the magazine is attacking. The cover is thus both ambiguous, provocative and intriguing. It led me however, to imagine the same cover with an Hebdo Jesus instead. Jesus, offensively drawn, stands under a headline that says all is forgiven, a tear rolls down his cheek and he carries a sign that reads ‘Je Suis Charlie’. Such an image would i think be profoundly Christian; even the offensive portrayal would speak of God’s identification with the marginalized in Jesus. We are with Jesus as he dies, disfigured and says ‘Father forgive them’. What would Jesus do today? And if I am one of whom Jesus says ‘as the Father sent me I send you’, what should I do? Somehow this must involve identification with others, but this will be with all not just some, even in love of those who would kill us. If all can be forgiven can this lead us to reconciliation and not conflict? What ridicule might we be prepared to bear in its pursuit?</div>
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<span style="font-family: Georgia, Helvetica, Tahoma, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;"><br /><br />Read more: <a href="http://www.patheos.com/blogs/emergentvillage/2015/01/je-suis-charlie-what-would-jesus-do-exploring-some-slogans-a-little-further/#ixzz3PPPhvwt0" style="color: #003399; text-decoration: none;">http://www.patheos.com/blogs/emergentvillage/2015/01/je-suis-charlie-what-would-jesus-do-exploring-some-slogans-a-little-further/#ixzz3PPPhvwt0</a></span>Stevehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04475918926743850643noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14624038.post-19535547892842594312014-12-17T17:05:00.002+00:002014-12-17T17:05:30.434+00:00my advent post on Share the Hopehttp://sharethehopeuk.wordpress.com/ do go and have a look and find out about my not so staring role in the pre-school nativity playStevehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04475918926743850643noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14624038.post-31879127129556309192014-10-21T22:33:00.001+00:002014-10-21T22:33:44.530+00:00Re-Imagining Godmy latest blog on Emerging Voices exploring how our images of God shape us<br />
<a href="http://www.patheos.com/blogs/emergentvillage/2014/10/re-imagining-god/?utm_source=SilverpopMailing&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=emergentvillage_102114UTC081013_daily&utm_content=&spMailingID=47239616&spUserID=MTA3NTc5Njk5NDc1S0&spJobID=542787037&spReportId=NTQyNzg3MDM3S0">Emerging Voices Re-Imagining God</a>Stevehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04475918926743850643noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14624038.post-19805687416664980412014-09-23T10:40:00.001+00:002014-09-23T10:40:19.464+00:00The Re-Indigenisation of Faith, Indigenous People Groups and Scottish Independence i am now contributing to a new Emerging Voices blog - this is my first on that site and can be found here<br />
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http://www.patheos.com/blogs/emergentvillage/2014/09/the-re-indigenisation-of-faith-indigenous-people-groups-and-scottish-independence/Stevehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04475918926743850643noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14624038.post-7766061131754466962014-03-31T15:50:00.001+00:002014-03-31T15:50:28.544+00:00Forest Church - an expression whose time has come?On Saturday I was speaking at the museum in Wells at an event called 'Born in a Pagan Land' <a href="http://www.bathandwells.org.uk/faithandmission/mission-open-forum-born-in-a-pagan-land-a-vision-of-ancient-future-christianity-in-somerset">Bath and Wells mission open forum born in a Pagan Land</a> the day was looking at the relationship between Paganism and Christianity in the UK with a special focus on Somerset. which of course meant a lot was said about Glastonbury. another speaker was Liz Williams, a Pagan who runs the shop the Cat and the Cauldron in that town. i was also joined by local missioner Diana Greenfield and Helen Bradley who have just started Avalon Forest Church. I was struck again by how much the Forest Church idea resonates with people. Christians who find God in nature and don't feel at home in conventional churches, those involved in 'New Age' therapies and spiritual practices and those who are Pagans or have Pagan backgrounds find this new - or perhaps re-discovered? - approach to Christianity makes sense and is attractive when otherwise it has less appeal. this won;t be true for everyone of course, but the way new Forest Churches are springing up suggests there are a lot of people for whom this is so.<br /><br />it is interesting to note that when the Roman's left Britain where in much of Europe the church took over the civic system the Romans left, in Britain there where a lot who returned to the countryside. rural monasteries and sacred sites in nature became central to early Christianity in these Isles. i wonder if there is still something in the British psyche that means the divine is sought in nature? perhaps this is part of the Forest Church growth?<br />
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see <a href="http://www.mysticchrist.co.uk/forest_church">Mystic Christ/ Forest Church</a> for moreStevehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04475918926743850643noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14624038.post-46164964994115050362013-06-23T21:22:00.002+00:002013-06-23T21:22:43.468+00:00exposing the Church of England plan to recruit Pagans using a Pagan churchOK if you have been reading the press over the last few days you may have come to believe the Church of England has a new policy to recruit Pagans by training pioneer ministers expressly to do this by starting a Pagan church - and that i am one of the key people doing this. Well that's what this article in the Telegraph <a href="http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/religion/10133906/Church-of-England-creating-pagan-church-to-recruit-members.html">http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/religion/10133906/Church-of-England-creating-pagan-church-to-recruit-members.html</a> certainly implies and it has drawn a lot of comment both from Christians and Pagans. But there is a big problem with this article - it is highly misleading and there is no such Church of England policy. I thought it was about time to expose the spin and let the real story come out.<br />
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firstly it is not a piece of research based on interviews done by the Telegraph it is actually a rehash of a radio piece done by BBC religion correspondent Robert Piggott for the Today Programme - you can listen to it here for the next 5 days <a href="http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b02x9f4j">http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b02x9f4j</a> the piece comes about 1:25 into the recording - it went out just after 7.25 on the 21st June. The background to this piece was that Robert had seen research by people like Linda Woodhead on the rise of spirituality outside of religion as a counterpoint to declining church numbers. in particular she had recently written an article for the Church Times suggesting that the Anglican church should concentrate on the 50% of Anglicans who are non-churchgoing believers (this is the link but the full article can only be read by subscribers <a href="http://networkedblogs.com/KGTJa">http://networkedblogs.com/KGTJa</a>. Robert wanted to explore this and particularly to find if there where ways the Anglican church was connecting with spiritual seekers. I was along with three others interviewed for this radio programme. it went out on the 21st June to link it to the Sumner Solstice celebrations at Stonehenge.<br />
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what happens in such interviews is that a several minute interview is used to produce a small piece as part of a larger article, I've done this before and knew what to expect. in the piece there was a comment from the very good Pagan academic Graham Harvey explaining that lots of people went to the solstice as well as Pagans including Christians who weren't tightly defined but more fluid. this was put in the context of growing numbers of spiritual seekers. Then the question of Anglican response was raised and i was introduced. i am an Anglican priest I research this area and work in evangelism so whilst i am not an official Anglican spokesperson on this i am often recommended as an Anglican to speak in this area.<br />
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two sentences were used from me firstly building on something that is a Church of England (along with a number of other churches) backed initiative to create fresh expressions of church within the different cultures of Britain recognizing that many people are culturally very distant from the church. <a href="http://www.freshexpressions.org.uk/about/whatis">http://www.freshexpressions.org.uk/about/whatis</a> This would indeed potentially include people of different religions and spiritualities as well as ethnicities, lifestyles, locations etc. we had talked about how one would do this for spiritual seekers or Pagans and I said that one would look to 'create an expression of christian faith within that culture almost a Pagan church but with Christ very much at the centre'. i was asked whether that would look like a traditional Anglican church - i suggested not, and offered as an example the Forest churches that several groups have set up and how they would meet outdoors, might have a circle or a fire chanting and prayers and things that were very Celtic in style.<br /><br />other interviews were with Andrea Campanale of CMS who train pioneer ministers, among other things. these ministers are likely to be helping create fresh expressions of church. Andrea and I have worked together on a few occasions, we helped run a Christian stall at the London Mind Body Spirit festival in May for instance. the third interview was from a member of an Anglican church who also uses Angel cards but who as far as i can tell has no official church role and isn't part of any programme of church outreach.<br /><br />so the radio interview showed there where Anglicans seeking to express christian faith in the cultural context of religion and spirituality outside of church and that might include Pagans. i have no problem with the radio piece - it was well researched and Robert is i am convinced quite genuinely interested in exploring this area. I also think it is very important and have argued for a number of years that the church needs to learn lessons from those expressing spirituality and religion outside of the church - especially those with roots in the New Age Movement or contemporary Paganism. i do not think this amounts to the Church of England having a deliberate policy of creating a Pagan church to recruit Pagans and training pioneer ministers to do it - the Telegraph article makes two and two equal a lot more than five. it takes the facts that pioneer ministers are being trained, some Anglicans think it inportant to engage with non church spirituality and that one of them talked of creating something that was 'almost a Pagan church with Christ at the centre'. it takes those and assumes this is all part of the same policy of the church. it is all influenced by fresh expressions thinking, but that was not mentioned in the radio piece or the Telegraph article - i guess some may think that fresh expresions might therefore be what the Telegraph was talking about - i simply suggest you look at the site i posted above and you will find very little if anything about Pagans or spiritual seekers.<br />
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i have no problem with the radio piece, but James Naughtie's introduction was i think a large part of what lead to the Telegraph story. as part of this, having suggested Pagans might meet to 'drink dew' at the solstice (yes it's that old 'daft Pagans' insult) he then went on to say the Church of England was seeking to recruit Pagans and spiritual seekers and was training pioneer ministers to create different kinds of churches that might appeal to spiritual seekers. OK i guess you have there the phrase 'recruit Pagans' and the elements the Telegraph built there story on. having rehashed the radio piece (and quoting me incorrectly) they also made matters worse with, the frankly patronizing suggestion that <span style="font-family: inherit;">'<span style="background-color: white; color: #282828; line-height: 20.712499618530273px;">The new move could see famous druids such as druid leader Arthur Pendragon move to Anglicanism.' i am guessing that Arthur is killing himself laughing - at least i hope that is what he is doing. </span></span><br />
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to fill in the picture there was also a piece in the Times, behind the pay wall of course. but at least Ruth Gledhill phoned me and this managed to straighten out some of the story - it still links things into a coherent plan but at least mentions fresh expressions <a href="http://www.thetimes.co.uk/tto/news/uk/article3797917.ece">http://www.thetimes.co.uk/tto/news/uk/article3797917.ece</a><br />
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OK that i hope at least helps explain how the articles happened and why i think they have been misleading.<br />
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i have been watching what has been happening on blogs and tweets and facebook as best i can. in one sense i was tempted to let it play out - but i have become concerned about the possible harm and misunderstanding that may come from this. i am concerned that Christians will decide i am selling out the faith or someone who will do anything to recruit church members - i have no problem with Christians disagreeing with me but i'd rather they did so on the basis of what i really think and do. i am more worried about what Pagans may think , and indeed some are thinking, that i and others are creating some deceptive fake church in order to target Pagans and recruit them. i have a number of Pagan friends and i value being part of groups in which Pagans are included. so i was rather disturbed by a story growing up that i was simply deceiving these people in order to recruit them. and for this reason felt i needed to set the record straight.<br />
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i think i need to finish very briefly by explaining why i said what i did. my understanding is that in every age and culture authentic Christianity adapts to become at home in that new context. in the west for a century and half it has done this less due to the establishment of the church - something i think was damaging BTW. i think we have been going through major cultural change from the later part of last century and the church has not adapted to this and is therefore declining. at the same time new expressions of spirituality have grown. at present i think such expressions of spirituality and religion are addressing the lives of many though not all people today far more effectively than the church and as a Christian i think we need to ask why and learn lessons from that. i do not believe that a Christian church could adopt Paganism and remain Christian nor that a Pagan group (or individual) could adopt Christianity and remain Pagan. i do think that Paganism has much to say and offer to the world today and much that Christians can adopt - for instance whilst Christianity isn't polytheistic, the Trinity does include the divine feminine as well as the divine masculine and those, including Pagans, who have criticized an apparently male lone christian deity are right to do so, and we as Christians need to acknowledge that and recover out own tradition of the divine feminine. similarly Pagans have often put Christians to shame when it comes to the environment when St Paul time and again talks of Jesus not saving people from the world but wanting to set the whole of creation free from suffering - we need to recover this ecological vision. i could go on but i hope you get the idea - that is what i meant by saying a Pagan church - on reflection i think i should have said a church in Pagan culture or one that learnt lessons from Paganism. i do think such a church would be far more attractive to many people. do i want people to 'join the church' put like that no - i am not interested in a church recruitment plan that sound slike getting people to join a social club. However, i find the vision Jesus outlined for life, society and the future of creation deeply attractive and my belief as a christian is that God can work to change us into the sort of people who can live that vision out and i want to share that vision with others and i hope they too are attracted to it - that would be what i would mean by evangelism. i also want to live in a society in which all faiths are tolerated and given equal status. i could say more but this has been long enough. i am happy to respond to further questions and commentsStevehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04475918926743850643noreply@blogger.com19tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14624038.post-22772874495941769192012-02-16T17:00:00.002+00:002012-02-16T17:05:19.982+00:00Dawkins vs Baroness Warsi - Christian Britain and its Secular detractorsRichard Dawkins has just released details of a survey designed to explore why in the 2001 Census 72% of British people ticked the box marked 'Christian'. There are two posts about this survey on the Dawkins Foundation site <a href="http://richarddawkins.net/articles/644941-rdfrs-uk-ipsos-mori-poll-1-how-religious-are-uk-christians"><span style="color: blue;">Dawkins survey post no.1</span></a> <a href="http://richarddawkins.net/articles/644942-rdfrs-uk-ipsos-mori-poll-2-uk-christians-oppose-special-influence-for-religion-in-public-policy" style="background-color: white;"><span style="color: blue;">Dawkins survey post no.2</span></a> . I have analysed the original survey data and my bulletin on this can be downloaded here <a href="http://www.churcharmy.org.uk/ms/sc/Evangelism/sfc_tomorrows_evangelism.aspx"><span style="color: blue;">response to Dawkins survey</span></a> . On the day this came out Baroness Warsi the Muslim conservative cabinet minister was meeting the Pope to call for the protection of Europe's Christian identity in the face of secularist attacks upon it <a href="http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/religion/9081641/Baroness-Warsi-religious-confidence-helps-Britain-attack-persecutors-abroad.html" style="background-color: white;"><span style="color: blue;">Baroness Warsi article in Telegraph</span></a> . It seems that the arguments between those who want to 'defend Christian Britain' and those who want religion to play no role in public life are an ongoing media story. This is not to everyone's liking. Giles Fraser, who on national Radio caused great amusement by asking Dawkins if he could name the full title of Darwin's Origin of Species, causing the atheist Darwnian scientist to stumble and exclaim 'oh God' when eh couldn't, has written in praise of the tradition of religious tolerance attacking both positions.<a href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2012/feb/14/dawkins-warsi-live-and-let-live" style="background-color: white;"><span style="color: blue;">Giles Fraser in Guardian</span></a> . What are the issues and how should Christians respond?<br />
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Firstly simply turning this into a battle between the two extremes probably only helps the atheist secular view. Dawkins if often strident and when met with gentle humour and non-dogmatic response he often comes over badly in comparison. This is partly why there was so much delight at his radio stumble; people rather liked him being caught out. Dawkins was right that in fact the stunt did not really act as an equivalent to asking people who said they were Christians to pick the name of the first book of the New Testament from a multi-choice list. But people enjoyed it all the same. However, one thing that Dawkins Survey carried out by IPSOS/MORI did show is that those who ticked Christian in the census do not on the whole support Christianity as a state religion. At least as a Muslim Baroness Warsi is not a member of the Church of England, but the danger is that defending the role of the church in public life appears to be defending the Church's privileges. <br />
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On the surface Dawkins poll is seeking to show that most people who put Christian in the census are not really that at all; which rather ironically leads to an atheist defining what a real Christian is. The real agenda however, is to argue that Christianity should be a private religion with no place in public life. The idea is that by showing most people who tick Christian in the census are not really so this undermines a role for the church in the state. Anyone who follows survey data on religion will be likely to realize that most people who tick Christian rarely if ever go to church or hold Christian beleifs. however, until this survey there has been no direct comparison of such to the answering of the census question. in one sense the survey makes Dawkins case; the majority of those who ticked Christian where not regularly in church, rarely prayed or read the bible and cited being baptized as a child as the main reason they were Christians. Whist claiming these as Christian may help bishops argue for seats in the Lords i doubt it really helps the church in its day to day life. without a church tax as is the case in many European countries, this is not going to fill the church pews or fund its ministry. More importantly should we as Christians be happy simply to bless this situation and not rather hope that Christian faith play a more significant role in these people's lives?<br />
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it seems to me both more honest and also helpful for the church's ministry with those people to admit that there are many who identify with the Christian religion but have little personal faith. But does that mean conceding the argument or with Fraser opting for a tolerant dismissal of the question? Part of the problem here is our Christendom legacy, I can understand why Giles Fraser argues that if people want to say they are Christian who are we to say otherwise, but in the end this simply upholds a view of being Christian that saw all born in our country so simply because they were British subjects and most were baptized accordingly. i have no problem with welcoming children into the church by baptism, neither do I feel that parents must pass a faith test first. But i think feeling that this is then 'job done' is a recipe for the kind of nominal Christianity Dawkins seeks to expose.<br />
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if i don't in the end agree with Giles Fraser i do think he is right to look for a third way between the defenders of Christian Britain and its secularist attackers. I also think Dawkins survey far from proving is case actually supports this third way. Firstly it shows that at least 18% of the population are seeking to follow the Christian religion and it's teachings, but significantly a further 22% of people identify their desire to be good people with Christian faith and associate this with the Bible as the best guide there is to morality. these people may not defend Church positions in the state, though many do, but they do want to see what they understand as Christian values influencing society. This is not however support for traditional positions on things like homosexuality and abortion, but would see Christian values as important on issues like poverty, business, human rights, support for families and children. If Dawkins wants to play the numbers game and argue that moral positions informed by Christianity have no role in public life because only 40% of the population support them, what then of the views of secular atheists? Survey's suggest they are at most 15% of the population. Dawkins might well respond that they don't have a privileged position because they are secular but simply have to make their case on merit of the argument. Perhaps it would strengthen the Christian case if they did the same? it may be that be surrendering some of the perceived privilege of the church it might find it gained more authority to speak for what are still the largest grouping in British society, those who see Christianity as the best guide to live by. after all we must remember only 23% of people voted for the current conservative government.Stevehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04475918926743850643noreply@blogger.com6tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14624038.post-7026053830977325452011-12-29T17:48:00.004+00:002011-12-29T17:48:51.266+00:00i wish it could be Christmas everyday?don't usually post my preaching - but as a sort of Christmas message to any who care to read it thought i would put up my midnight sermon from this year - didn't know then of course i would share the ending with the Queen's Christmas message - I rather like that unlikely link!<br />
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the bible text BTW was John's Gospel chapter 1:1-17 -in particular the following - in the beginning was the word ...and the word became flesh and dwelt among us....he was the true light coming into the world...the light shines in the darkness and the darkness has not over come it... to all who received him he gave power to become children of God....<br />
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on the Chris Evans show has told us not to hold out for the perfect Christmas –
and for those who as Christmas eve fades and Christmas day comes close are
sitting here saying to themselves ‘I’m not going through all this another year’
the quest for the perfect Christmas is indeed probably something we need to
banish. It can so easily be that the pressure to have the perfect Christmas
ends up as one of the factors that instead ensures everyone is so wound up that
all the seasonal goodwill has dried up long before the turkey is carved. <o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;">When celebrating Christmas
becomes a very expensive headache I can understand the people who say they look
forward to Christmas with dread rather than joy. In spite of all that I have to
confess to being one of the people who really likes Christmas, and not just
because of its significance to me as a Christian. I like the tinsel and lights,
and the idea that everyone is having a celebration. I even like the flashing
Santa hats and the Christmas pop songs played in all the shops – though I do
wish I didn’t have to hear them from sometime in November – there are only so
many times you can hear Slade’s merry Christmas before it starts to get a
little annoying.<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;">If most can share in this as
some of the magic of Christmas then I think for many there is also a special
magic in the story that has become the Christian focus of this mid-winter
festival – the story celebrated worldwide, even in places where snow and holy
are not part of the equation because for them it is mid-summer.<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;">David Cameron may want to
draw on the Christian identity of <st1:country-region w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Britain</st1:place></st1:country-region> that was so much part of
the Dickensian Christmas. That he feels the need to do so tells us how in many
ways that Christian identity is far less a feature of most people’s lives. Many
people however, still want to be part of the celebration of the story of the
birth of Jesus and its magic along with the mince pies and presents.<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;">And the story is magical –
the miraculous birth, the angels shepherds and wise men following the star, the
nativity scenes from school plays to Christmas cards. And it is also a great
drama as Tony Jordan the Eastenders script writer will have shown anyone who
saw his nativity series last year of the repeat this year; reminding us that at
the heart of the story was a vulnerable young women who in saying yes to God
put her life at risk, and a man challenged to stand by her when all the
pressure was to do otherwise and doubt seemed wiser than faith. <o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;">And here as we move behind
the nativity scene and start to think what the story means perhaps the deepest
magic emerges, the story of a God who loves the world and wants to be
intimately involved with it. Who comes not to a celebrity in a lavish palace
but to an unknown woman who finds herself homeless. A God prepared to be
vulnerable and in our care as part of a plan to restore love and care between
all people that there may indeed be peace on earth and goodwill to all.<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;">It is that story that at its
best makes Christmas magical as a time when we do offer good will to others,
when people ensure the marginalised and lonely have a Christmas dinner, the
homeless are looked after; when we are generous to others in a way that is out
of the ordinary. Indeed at its best the magic of Christmas gives us a glimpse
into another way of living of a world that I think many of us long for – even
in spite of the pressure to create the perfect Christmas.<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;">Another of the ubiquitous pop
songs played a little too often is Wizard’s I wish it could be Christmas
everyday – and at this time of year someone guaranteed to be in the news, is
Andy Park of Melksham in Wiltshire who is dubbed Mr. Christmas for apparently
celebrating Christmas everyday since 1993, he has a new video on youtube to
tell you all about it. Each day he has mince pies for breakfast, unwraps
presents he has wrapped the night before and posts a card to himself through
his letter box. He then goes to work – he runs his own electrical business –
before coming home to a turkey lunch at 3pm and watches a recording of the
queen’s speech. <o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;">I don’t know if that was what
Wizard meant by wishing it was Christmas everyday but as much as I love
Christmas, the tinsel and turkey are only fun because they happen for a few
days only – indeed I think we already spend far too long dragging that side of
Christmas out for the sake of the retail business. <o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;">But what if the care,
generosity and goodwill could be for everyday of the year? What if everyday the
poor the lonely the homeless and the suffering received the care they do at
Christmas? What if there was peace and reconciliation all year round? The
trouble is we all know how difficult that is to sustain, the economic realties
that work against it, the darker side of human nature that means that greed and
violence so often drive out goodwill.<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;">If the magic of Christmas
opens a window of longing for such a world then the cold realties of life
sooner or later tend to pack away those dreams with the decorations. <o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;">God however has not packed
away his Christmas gift. God’s love and care and commitment to all creation
have not faded. In God’s mind it is indeed Christmas everyday. The light shines
in the darkness and the darkness cannot overcome it. <o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;">Some have suggested that Mr.
Christmas Andy Park is not being quite truthful about his daily Christmas, and
Tony Jordan found when researching his programme that various scholars told him
the familiar details of the Christmas story where also doubtful. But as he researched further and talked to
people of faith he concluded the details mattered far less than central events
of the story and the impact of what God was doing in those people’s lives. Indeed
if the story had been embellished – just as he himself does as a good story
teller – this was to help the point get across. And so he found himself he says
to his surprise like the character of Joseph coming to faith in Mary’s story in
spite of all his doubts and with a cynical shepherd looking for a political
revolution who instead found himself kissing the feet of a tiny baby in
adoration.<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;">People sometimes talk of the
magic of Christmas as something for children that we grow out of. But John’s
gospel reminds that for all who, in spite of their doubts and difficult life
experiences, come to believe in God’s presence among us in that tiny baby; for
all such people the miracle of Christmas is that they too are born as children
of God. <o:p></o:p></span></div>
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his birth, God’s word did come in flesh about 2000 years or so ago in Jesus, and
his influence on those he encountered has had lasting consequences. But that is
not the end of the story. Each Christmas he seeks to be born again in human
form in the lives of all who will open themselves to his presence. The hopes
and fears of all the years are met in him tonight not just because of the magic
and the meaning of the story back in time. It is God’s life in us that can enable
us to be the people who whilst we pack away the decorations to enjoy another
year really do live as if it is Christmas everyday. It is that light shining in
our hearts that can banish our darkest places and enable us to be people of the
light in the darkest places of our world. <o:p></o:p></span></div>
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us, God imparts to human hearts the wonders of his heaven. That earth may
become like heaven, that the magic of Christmas may not fade but transform us
and our world.<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<b><span style="color: #336699; font-size: 12pt;">O little town of Bethlehem<br />
How still we see thee lie<br />
Above thy deep and dreamless sleep<br />
The silent stars go by<br />
Yet in thy dark streets shineth<br />
The everlasting Light<br />
The hopes and fears of all the years<br />
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<b><span style="color: #336699; font-size: 12pt;">For Christ is born of Mary<br />
And gathered all above<br />
While mortals sleep, the angels keep<br />
Their watch of wondering love<br />
O morning stars together<br />
Proclaim the holy birth<br />
And praises sing to God the King<br />
And Peace to men on earth<br />
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How silently, how silently<br />
The wondrous gift is given!<br />
So God imparts to human hearts<br />
The blessings of His heaven.<br />
No ear may hear His coming,<br />
But in this world of sin,<br />
Where meek souls will receive him still,<br />
The dear Christ enters in.<br />
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O holy Child of Bethlehem<br />
Descend to us, we pray<br />
Cast out our sin and enter in<br />
Be born to us today<br />
We hear the Christmas angels<br />
The great glad tidings tell<br />
O come to us, abide with us<br />
Our Lord Emmanuel </span></b></div>
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<br /></div>Stevehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04475918926743850643noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14624038.post-14700657071284958162011-12-02T23:18:00.003+00:002011-12-03T00:38:51.182+00:00Mission, Maori and the Anglican Covenantfor those not in the Anglican Communion there is an international debate going on in response at least in part if not predominantly over the tensions created between liberals and traditionalists and majority world and 'western world' countries over issues of same sex relationships. a proposed solution is a covenant that creates more accountability across the communion - or from another angle more control on what have been independent churches.<div><br /></div><div>this can be viewed simply as a tension between traditional and liberal Christians. There is also a very real backdrop of colonial Christianity; it is the old colonial nations that are pursuing more liberal agendas and their former colonies tat are arguing against them on the whole, though there are diffrent voices in both contexts. </div><div><br /></div><div>the Maori Christians in the church of New Zealand have opposed this covenant by viewing the issue very differently - see <a href="http://www.churchtimes.co.uk/content.asp?id=120448">http://www.churchtimes.co.uk/content.asp?id=120448</a> they have i think rightly perceived that diversity in the church is not about liberals vs conservatives but the nature of the church's mission. the choice is between a church whose form and practice are dictated from a centre, and it mattes not if that is Canterbury or Lagos or Washington, and one in which each church incarnates the faith within it's own culture. </div><div><br /></div><div>globalization, the fading of Christendom and the shift towards post-modern culture all put enormous pressure on different cultures and societies. in such a world it is understandable to seek security and a strong global identity. if you are a Christian in central Africa or much of Asia you live alongside a strong Islamic presence and the tensions often tip over into violence. being associated with 'liberal western Christians' can be a trigger that lights the volatile material in such places, this can lead to death and destruction. in our world we no longer live within our own small cultures and communities, we are increasingly global citizens. </div><div><br /></div><div>yet as many missiologists like Andrew Walls have noted, churches have failed in may areas of the world because they failed to remain at home in the local culture. in a world in which increasing diversity exists alongside globalization we are pulled in two ways - i think history suggest the Maori have seen he issue correctly - the future mission of the church requires it to be more diverse not less in our changing world, we need another way to live together and it will not by tightening the rules at the centre, but by understanding and blessing the many edges that the chuch's mission will be strengthened. it is this principle that lead to the great diversity of early churches across the world that i believe we need to re-capture today</div>Stevehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04475918926743850643noreply@blogger.com4tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14624038.post-24921192330052594122011-04-07T18:33:00.002+00:002011-04-12T22:32:56.727+00:00does my society look big in this?rather taken with the idea of these tee-shirts bearing the legend 'does my society look big in this?' <a href="http://www.philosophyfootball.com/new_win.html">http://www.philosophyfootball.com/new_win.html</a> i think good Greenbelt festival wear. <div><br /></div><div>OK i am by inclination a committed Christian Socialist so i am likely to think the Big Society is just another way of expressing the ideology of a small government - which i think may be driving cuts as much as a desire to reduce budget deficits. So you can see the appeal of the tee-shirt - as well is it being great fun. But how should Christians view this idea and does it have any implications for mission?</div><div><br /></div><div>regardless of whether i am right about the ideology of the Big Society and Christians will take different views, clearly it raises an expectation that groups like churches are possibly being invited to play a more prominent role in community projects, welfare provision, youth work, health care etc. how should we respond to this?</div><div><br /></div><div>well from my viewpoint there may be some weariness. if the churches do step in to fill roles left vacant by government cuts are we not simply supporting a policy we don't agree with? this is true but can I as a Christian not offer care to people simply on those grounds? my ideology is based on a belief that the whole of society should care not just those who chose too; it is a shared responsibility. but i do want to see care happening. i also would be an advocate of Christians doing so regardless of public policy; it is part of being agents of God's Kingdom in which the poor hear good news, the hungry are fed and the sick healed.</div><div><br /></div><div>if you do not share my political concerns this may indeed look like a great opportunity for the church to return to a role it played for centuries of being the centre of care and education for the community. i certainly know Christians who thank that way. so perhaps whatever our ideology, Christians may find themselves united in filling those Big Society roles.</div><div><br /></div><div>however, i don't think that solves the issue. there are i think some underlying pitfalls that may await us. i hear from some a sense that the Big Society agenda may help reverse the marginalization of churches in our public life; returning to them essential roles in the community. this may be partly true, but there are two dangers here. one is that we can even if we don't mean to, appear to be doing our bit for the purpose of gaining status and not because of our care for others. a test of this will be our willingness to be involved in care projects that are not specifically Christian as opposed to those that look as if they are rather like company charity giving; basically an advertising exercise. the other is how this new church involvement can be portrayed by those who view all church involvement in society as dangerous and to be challenged. if the church gets more involved in social projects we can expect more scrutiny from the secularist lobby wanting to catch us out. these two danger clearly fuel each other. a sense that the Big Society projects aid the church's profile is exactly the kind of evidence that will be used against such involvement. </div><div><br /></div><div>i think for all these reasons, whatever our ideology, we need to offer care to those who need it as best we can. however this has to be based on people's need not on how it makes the church look. for both reasons the best answer may not be lots of high profile church care projects, but Christians joining in with wider based community action. this is likely to best use skill and resources as well as being clearly free of an ulterior motive. it may also be the best way to be salt and light in our society - whatever it's size.</div>Stevehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04475918926743850643noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14624038.post-46724911797579000432010-12-05T22:53:00.002+00:002010-12-06T00:33:06.824+00:00Not Ashamed of what?last week saw the launch by Lord Carey and others of Not Ashamed, a campaign to support the recognition of the Christian heritage of Britain and support Christians who feel they have been discriminated against for their public stance for the Christian faith - you can read more here <a href="http://www.notashamed.org.uk/leaflet.php">http://www.notashamed.org.uk/leaflet.php</a><br /><br />i think it is important to remember the positive contribution the Christian faith has made to our culture and help people make the connections between that contribution and things they may well take for granted about it that they too value. I want Christians to be comfortable about expressing their faith both in public and private. I believe just as i have found personal encounter with Christ both personally transforming and visionary for the blessing of all creation others will find this true also and want them to discover that. I am confident that God is at work in all creation bringing fullness of life and the new creation as he has spoke of it through the ages. i am not however confident this campaign actually serves those beliefs. why is that?<br /><br />firstly i am not sure it has rightly understood the world we are in our the nature of the issue. it is easy to quote the 72% in the last census who said they were christian, but this doesn't mean they support this kind of understanding of what being a christian nation is - indeed the survey evidence is strongly that most who say this see it as a positive statement about loving ones neighbour but also see that as affirming the kind of policies Christian agencies and individuals are clashing with. the reality is that whilst for centuries of Christendom if it was never the case that the majority of British adults went to church often the majority of children went to church or later Sunday school and were raised in that faith. this totally collapsed during the twentieth century. this was indeed a time of great social change - but is this collapse due to the challenge to faith that change brought or due to the failure of the church to engage with that change? either way does a political campaign seeking to reverse supposed marginalisation of Christians on thee basis of our past contribution address either issue? it simply treats cultural change as a political debate and ignores whatever the extent is, and i suspect it is high, that the church has failed to engage with it.<br /><br />secondly whilst there is much to be proud of in this country's Christian heritage there is actually much of which we should be ashamed. i think we need to wake up to the harsh reality that Christendom, the declaration of Christianity as a political as well as a spiritual reality as a basis for state rule as well as culture, has left a legacy which seems to have little to do with Jesus. firstly it enforced faith on its citizens banning the free expression of belief, i then instituted the spreading of faith on other nations by military conquest. it then made opposing the state religion a treasonable offense often punishable by death usually after torture. christian nations fought over faith and persecuted religious minorities. of this we should be ashamed. and i think the root of the problem is that we forget Jesus teaching that his kingdom was not of this world otherwise an army would come to defend him. and so we created christian armies and christian governments. any political campaign about the political rights of Christians based on our nations Christian heritage thus appears to be a desire to return to that which we should be ashamed. if we are to argue for the civil rights of Christians they are going to have to be argued on a different basis.<br /><br />because i think both these things are true i fear this campaign far from strengthening the position of Christianity in this country actually serves to marginalise it further. firstly it makes Christians look as bad as they are feared to be by the majority of the population - there may be some wave of anti-political correctness that can be ridden but in the end it all looks like Christians defending their own power and privilege and their right to go against the wishes of society with no consequence. secondly it creates an embattled mentality amongst Christians like that amongst some sections of the Muslim population which risks becoming the breeding ground for religious and political extremism.<br /><br />the Emperor Constantine who adopted Christianity as the faith of his empire was followed by Julian who is labelled by Christian history as 'the apostate'. he attempted to reverse the fortunes of Christianity and return Paganism as the official religion. many of his policies toward this end involved politics and power but his own recognition was that the real issue was the respect the Christians had in society. the reality was as Julian admitted the Pagans of his day simply did not match this and he exhorted them to do so. the christian community that had no power or privilege was at best ignored and at worst persecuted, was slandered and dismissed against all the odds had so excelled in caring for the poor and the sick, helping the outcast, building communities of care in which all were supported and in loving those who persecuted them as Jesus commanded that in the end even the Roman Empire could not resist its witness.<br /><br />we can indeed by proud of this heritage, we can a<span id="SPELLING_ERROR_0" class="blsp-spelling-error">lso</span> point to those shining examples that have carried it forward, we can also be glad that many still speak well of the individual christian they know. but we then have to accept an <span id="SPELLING_ERROR_1" class="blsp-spelling-corrected">uncomfortable</span> reality just as this witness brought Christianity into the centre of Roman power so i fear it corrupted it - the persecuted became the persecutors, the <span id="SPELLING_ERROR_2" class="blsp-spelling-corrected">philosophy</span> of roman state religion became the churches philosophy and faith became for many not a matter of <span id="SPELLING_ERROR_3" class="blsp-spelling-corrected">conviction</span> and lifestyle but of birth and political dictate. in truth the various reforms and reformations whilst they have <span id="SPELLING_ERROR_4" class="blsp-spelling-corrected">inspired</span> some to renewed vision and witness have done l<span id="SPELLING_ERROR_5" class="blsp-spelling-corrected">ittle</span> to <span id="SPELLING_ERROR_6" class="blsp-spelling-corrected">change</span> this. in the end perhaps though their is much to morn the collapse of Christendom is the only way for the church to find again that calling and that witness?<br /><br />so let us not seek a political campaign that seeks to restore a christian nation that whilst it has enabled good has also robed the faith of its heart and much of which we should be ashamed. let us instead this Advent hear the call of the Baptist to repent and bear the fruit of repentance rather than look back to ancestors to save us and become again the people whose lives so <span id="SPELLING_ERROR_7" class="blsp-spelling-corrected">witness</span> to Christ in the face of <span id="SPELLING_ERROR_8" class="blsp-spelling-corrected">whatever</span> opposition may or may not arise, to bless those who oppose, that Gods presence becomes <span id="SPELLING_ERROR_9" class="blsp-spelling-corrected">irresistible</span> and no political power or <span id="SPELLING_ERROR_10" class="blsp-spelling-corrected">privilege</span> is needed to support faith.Stevehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04475918926743850643noreply@blogger.com3tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14624038.post-14864069075141172982009-03-05T17:31:00.002+00:002009-03-05T17:58:57.406+00:00Zodiac Christ?Anyone following this site will know that i think we can explore spirituality through the <span class="blsp-spelling-corrected" id="SPELLING_ERROR_0">beliefs</span>, practices and <span class="blsp-spelling-corrected" id="SPELLING_ERROR_1">experience</span> of all paths and traditions and as Christians find <span class="blsp-spelling-corrected" id="SPELLING_ERROR_2">parallels</span> and places we recognise form our own encounters with God through Jesus as the one who opens up the way to God. An area i have often <span class="blsp-spelling-corrected" id="SPELLING_ERROR_3">found</span> myself exploring at places like Mind Body Spirit fairs is the way personality types in things like Astrology or Tarot relate to ideas of growing into wholeness as Jesus expressed it, coming to Love God with all our strength, mind, heart and spirit.<br /><br />The Re:Jesus website is designed to be a place that opens up exploration of Jesus from a range of perspectives, <span class="blsp-spelling-corrected" id="SPELLING_ERROR_4">historical</span>, <span class="blsp-spelling-corrected" id="SPELLING_ERROR_5">artistic</span>, spiritual etc so that people from any spiritual path or religion or none can enter into that journey. i was <span class="blsp-spelling-corrected" id="SPELLING_ERROR_6">recently</span> asked to put my <span class="blsp-spelling-corrected" id="SPELLING_ERROR_7">experience</span> of discussing personal <span class="blsp-spelling-corrected" id="SPELLING_ERROR_8">development</span> and spirituality with those exploring astrology as a similar path into a monthly blog series looking at the links between Jesus and the personality types associated with star signs. you can have a look ans see what you think by following this link <a href="http://www.rejesus.co.uk/site/module/zodiac_christ/">http://www.rejesus.co.uk/site/module/zodiac_christ/</a><br /><br />i am not surprised that this has raised questions for some <span class="blsp-spelling-corrected" id="SPELLING_ERROR_9">Christians</span> who have posted comments <span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_10">on</span> the site after the march/Pisces edition. i think these questions are worth exploring and so thought <span class="blsp-spelling-corrected" id="SPELLING_ERROR_11">I'd</span> add a blog here where the issues can be raised and discussed at what ever length people wish. <br /><br />i am always aware when i explain my approach to other <span class="blsp-spelling-corrected" id="SPELLING_ERROR_12">beliefs</span>, of whatever nature that some christian will view all other <span class="blsp-spelling-corrected" id="SPELLING_ERROR_13">belief</span> systems as a deception. For me centuries of Christian <span class="blsp-spelling-corrected" id="SPELLING_ERROR_14">tradition</span> and the biblical texts they are based on tell me God is found in many paths and <span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_15">spiritualities</span>. not that they are all the same, they <span class="blsp-spelling-corrected" id="SPELLING_ERROR_16">clearly</span> are not, and therefore not <span class="blsp-spelling-corrected" id="SPELLING_ERROR_17">everything</span> in every <span class="blsp-spelling-corrected" id="SPELLING_ERROR_18">tradition</span> can be right. some post-modern thinkers might disagree with that. for me if there is a God then <span class="blsp-spelling-corrected" id="SPELLING_ERROR_19">ultimately</span> that limits truth to that which is <span class="blsp-spelling-corrected" id="SPELLING_ERROR_20">consistent</span> with God so not all things can be true. But not only do i think most spiritual paths have genuine insights of God, i am also aware that if even my Christian faith is true in seeing God most fully revealed in Jesus that is very different i saying i have all the answers or fully understand God. i am rather aware of my humanity and the limits it sets to my understanding. i think some of the <span class="blsp-spelling-corrected" id="SPELLING_ERROR_21">concerns</span> raised on Re:Jesus are around this issue<br /><br />however even if you accept my view here i want to raise a question about how we come <span class="blsp-spelling-corrected" id="SPELLING_ERROR_22">across</span> and how context may change that. i think this issue is also present in some of the comments on the site. does it change the <span class="blsp-spelling-corrected" id="SPELLING_ERROR_23">apparent</span> message when i move from a discussion with people exploring astrology to a post on a christian run website? is this use of <span class="blsp-spelling-corrected" id="SPELLING_ERROR_24">Astrological</span> types a form of deception? i am i <span class="blsp-spelling-corrected" id="SPELLING_ERROR_25">likely</span> to be read as supporting <span class="blsp-spelling-corrected" id="SPELLING_ERROR_26">interpretations</span> of Astrology i may not actually hold to?<br /><br />no doubt you can think of other questions, so please do raise them!Stevehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04475918926743850643noreply@blogger.com41tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14624038.post-72532135357799875782009-02-15T15:36:00.000+00:002009-02-15T15:38:49.542+00:00<span style="font-size:130%;">The language of ‘fresh expressions of church’ may be killing our mission</span><br /><br />I think we often underestimate the power of language. The words we choose conjure images of what we are describing, and sometimes these can have unintended consequences. I am increasingly seeing this happen when people use the phrase ‘fresh expressions of church’ indeed even more so when people talking of their mission as ‘creating fresh expressions of church’. I remain a great supporter of both the analysis and aims of the Mission-Shaped Church report which has lead to this kind of language. The problem is that the language has taken on a life of its own that means it is often no-longer serving that report’s vision, indeed I think it is often working against it.<br /><br />The report gave us several valuable insights. It noted that, with the rise of a ‘non-churched’ population Britain, as with much of what was Christendom, was now effectively a foreign mission field. From this it applied cross-cultural mission principles to our situation and suggested that we needed churches that emerged from within the various cultures of Britain as a result of a process of incarnational mission within those cultures. It also noted how much of our society was organised on a network rather than a local basis and that the parish system needed supplementing with network based churches. Finally all this meant that we needed to move away from thinking about growing existing churches to planting new ones. Within this context the language of ‘fresh expressions of church’ is a reminder that the new mission field would require new ways of being church.<br /><br />The above remains true, but increasingly the effect of the fresh expressions language is leading to something quite different. People seem to have got into their heads that the need is to ‘create a fresh expression of church’ and not that they are called to cross-cultural mission which may in time, and sometimes a long time, lead to a fresh expression of church emerging from that mission. The result of this is that the process set out in Mission-Shaped Church is reversed, people set up what ever kind of fresh expression they think they ought to run and then go looking for people who might want to join it; such churches are not in the least bit ‘mission-shaped’ they are simply a way of consumer niche marketing existing church to provide a wider ranger of choices for church shoppers. The likely result is that those attracted will be existing church members, or those who have left church. What’s more even if over time missionary members of such churches do make contact with the non-churched or groups of people they have not in the past reached how are these new Christians going to be enabled to worship in their own culture when the have already had the culture of the ‘fresh expression’ decided for them in advance by a group of well meaning but culturally different Christians?<br /><br />The categorizing of fresh expressions as certain types of church may add to the problem. The idea that something should be called a ‘café church’ for instance tends to define the fresh expression according to a worship style. It unfortunately suggests I decide to model my worship on the style of a café, which is quite different to a church that has emerged from mission within café culture in a particular place. The classification of a fresh expression should not reflect a style of worship, rather the type of community or network that has given birth to the appropriately inculturated expression of church. So to talk of a Goth church makes sense if it has emerged from cross-cultural mission within the Goth community, to talk of starting a Goth service, unless it has such a history, is to totally miss the point. In essence ‘fresh expressions’ is properly not about types of church it is a methodology of cross-cultural mission that leads to inculturated forms of church, the fact that the churches which emerge are inculturated is all that matters not how they do worship. I know that the authors of Mission-Shaped Church where very aware of this danger and considered not putting in the examples. In hindsight I suspect the problem was not the examples but the suggestion that they could be classified under different labels. Telling the story of how fresh expressions had emerged makes the point well. Suggesting there are different types of fresh expression labelled according to styles of worship encourages exactly what the report’s authors didn’t want; looking down the list and deciding to start one of the options and thus ignoring the whole thrust of the report.<br /><br />So my suugestion? Let’s stop starting fresh expressions of church and let’s start doing the real task of cross-cultural mission in the belief that in time fresh expressions will emerge.Stevehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04475918926743850643noreply@blogger.com24tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14624038.post-70649054193519643142008-06-14T09:19:00.003+00:002008-06-14T11:23:34.871+00:00Are we 'a Christian country'?I'll let others decide how relevant a question this is in other countries, but I doubt this is just a question here in the UK!<br /><br />in the UK this question has become part of a big debate about national identity, and various people, including but not exclusively church leaders, are using the phrase 'we are a Christian country' as a background to make various points in this debate. the idea seems to be that because 'we are a Christian country' politicians ought to make certain moral decisions on embryo technology, or what we should or should not see on TV, or, post 9/11 et al the place of Muslims in society. But what does this phrase mean? is it true? has it ever been true? and perhaps most importantly does this claim help or hinder the coming of the Kingdom of God on earth as it is in heaven?<br /><br />if the phrase means a nation of people who are Christians, well how is this defined? if we mean people actively pursuing the Christian faith as essential to their own lives active in the Church community and becoming more 'Christ-like' as they seek to follow Jesus; well this has always only applied to a minority of people in the UK. i leave you to judge how it is in other places, but offer one observation; even in nations in which the majority go to church regularly and nearly all profess Christian faith, how deep that faith goes into the lives of some followers might well be an issue of concern. on this basis we certainly have never been a 'christian country'.<br /><br />what we have been however is an 'officially Christian country' for centuries, so when people appeal to this identity, what is it they are appealing to? i think it is the 'two pronged approach' of Christendom. This occurs when the political elite declare the country to be 'Christian' and thus tell all its citizens they are now members of the State church. the church then seeks to enable these citizens to practice the faith they are now officially a part of. the definition of a Christian then tends to become 'a member of the Church' and depending on the tradition of the state church this is measured by things like Baptism, often of infants, paying church tax, often in the past at least obligatory, or simply living in a parish and thus being seen as the parishioner of a local church. Such approaches can define a country as Christian, but not at all mean that it is a country of Christian people.<br /><br />Needless to say this approach is very much that of Europe, and to a lesser extent Europe's one time colonies, though many of them, like the US threw out this model after independence. However even countries without a state church tradition can operate a form of Christendom, and i would suggest the US does for instance. in these countries 'Christian values' are viewed as part of the social fabric, and churchgoing is just as 'expected' as if the state told people to go. in such places there may also be many people who claim Christian adherence, even perhaps go to Church yet seem to posses a faith that is more about good social standing and being a good citizen than anything else.<br /><br />now there are things in many western societies that have been shaped by it's Christian heritage, whatever form of 'Christendom' we are talking about. these include attitudes to human dignity, law, science etc...though some of these had to fight Church opposition in some quaters to emerge as a legacy of that Christian tradition. and i think part of the 'we are Christian country' appeal is to this legacy, and i think there are good things here to look back on.<br /><br />But here's the problem. the appeal to being 'a Christian country' is therefore two things, an appeal to a positive legacy of what has happened in the past due to the role Christianity has played in our country; and an appeal to a Christendom identity which has led to that shaping of society in the past, but has never been a personal identity of many of the people in that nation. this is why De Tocqueville suggested, looking at America, that democracy would be the end of Christendom. once people become active in asserting their own views in the political process and increasingly operate as individuals in the social and political sphere they want society to reflect there personal identity. from this perspective being told 'we are a Christian country' looks not like a statement of a shared identity but an imposition on my personal choice and self-identity. Equally the appeal to history Can also be contested and is. for many today the Christian legacy is viewed as violence, oppression, sexism, destruction of the planet and the resistance of social and scientific progress. to many people 'we are a Christian country' sounds like 'can we go back to the middle ages please so the Church can have all it's power back and oppress you some more'.<br /><br />let's face it, why are some people wanting to continually remind 'we are Christian country'? Because the Church has largely lost its power and influence, for good or ill in nations where it once could both bless or oppress that nations citizens through considerable power and influence.<br /><br />at this point i know some in the Church will want to say things like 'but in our last national census 72% of people said they were Christian' and 'surveys have shown that most people want our nation to be run on Christian values'. both these things are true, but what do they mean? well ask people in a survey if they support traditional religious morality (this has been done) and they will resoundingly tell you they don't. so how does all this square up? i think the key is this, a certain legacy based on the idea that i should love my neighbour and value fairness and justice is seen as part of a Christian legacy, and this is what people mean by Christian values. people who identify with this are happy to call themselves Christians, though actually this label is being used less and less by successive generations. this is the root of the classic phrase i have often heard when taking funerals. the deceased i was often told, never went to church and wasn't religious, but 'was as good a christian as the next person'. this effectively meant they were a nice person who tried to make a positive contribution to society. what might 'we are a Christian country' mean to such a person. well the answer is it all depends on what is being defended or promoted on this basis. if it agrees with their view the person using the phrase will be defended for 'speaking out for our traditions and national values'. if however the position being supported on the basis that 'we are a Christian country' is not to a person's own liking, and would thus be labelled 'traditional religious morality', then the person using the phrase is attacked for meddling in politics, and likely to be tarred with the image of the Church as historical oppressor. and we are back with De Tocqueville.<br /><br />the reality is that a modern democratic society can never by identity be a 'Christian country' and the use of this phrase does not promote the Church's influence i think it actually undermines it. it simply serves to remind everyone that the church is a thing of the past, that we used to be a Christian nation and that whilst some bits of that legacy where good we no longer need the Church to tell us that, we the citizens now decide what are 'good Christian values' and what are 'bad traditional religious morality'. anyone caught using the phrase 'we are a Christian country' is at best well meaning but irrelevant and at worst a power mad oppressor who wants to run the country their way and not our way. Christians need to wake up to this and start admitting we are not a Christian country.<br /><br />But does this mean the Church or Christians have nothing to say to society or ought, as some like to tell them, to stick to people's spiritual lives? absolutely not. I began this post talking of the identity crisis that is the context for such claims. with that goes some sense that there are things in our past we have perhaps lost, like good relationships with our neighbours, streets in which doors can be left unlocked and no-one will rob you, etc. there are also current issues we don;t know how to face, globalisation, food shortages, global warming, increasing social diversity, and more. as a Christian i think there is much from my faith tradition we have to offer by way of vision when facing such questions. Churches have much to offer in their locations as a positive influence.<br /><br />when we stop trying to claim some privileged position because 'we are a Christian country' and admit we are not we then get freed up to start fulfilling a calling to offer vision in our nation in the only way we can, by inspiring individuals, whether in government or in the local street, by what we say and what we do. if this country or any country has a Christian future it will not be because of any status the church or the religion holds in society, it will be because people encounter the vision of the Kingdom of God and see it transforming the lives of Christians so that people in our society say ' i want to be like them' and 'i want our society to be just like that'. and perhaps here is the sobering truth, the claim to be 'a christian country' is something the church Can hide behind because actually it fears it cannot be valued simply on its own merits. ironically whilst this may be a well placed fear, there is also much going on that if bought out into the light would in fact commend much of what Christians are doing as indeed inspirational.Stevehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04475918926743850643noreply@blogger.com10tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14624038.post-36528886736771720632008-05-29T23:46:00.004+00:002008-05-30T00:52:33.253+00:00the new charismatics: revival and evangelismfirstly apologies...a long time no post! so if anyone is out there my thought has been in the book I've been writing...and now am editing. the good news is it has got me seriously thinking so hopefully much to follow here too.<br /><br />this post is sparked by a number of things one is the Florida revival and friends of mine who have been there and posted, positively i want to hear more, and others who have been more questioning. but then i got onto Mike <span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_0">Morell's</span> blog on some other 'new charismatics' check here <a href="http://zoecarnate.wordpress.com/2008/05/27/charismatic-chaos-or-holy-spirited-deconstruction/">http://zoecarnate.wordpress.com/2008/05/27/charismatic-chaos-or-holy-spirited-deconstruction/</a> not only some interesting material but also a good post exploring how 'emergent types' might respond.<br /><br />so what about revival and evangelism or for that matter the charismatic and the post-modern/the emerging church?<br /><br />well i think 'revival' is itself an interesting term. it is geared to 'reviving' something. you revive something that is expiring so you are working on what already exists, not on something new. I think this is telling. revival is 'Christendom mode' it's an outpouring in a Christian place that thus has major effect and indeed when one thinks about it the Church has been invigorated for centuries by various revivals. but when the issue is a post-Christendom, post-Christian culture is a revival what we need? well if it transforms the church into a body that actually becomes a witness in the world and an agent of transformation for the good, yes indeed it is. the trouble is all recent revivals seem to have done nothing like this.<br /><br />i am pleased when God blesses people, makes them feel special, and especially so if they are healed in body mind or spirit. but what i keep seeing is outpourings of the Spirit that do this but instead of sending people into the world as a blessing to the world keep them returning to increasingly charged church services like junkies looking for the next spirit fix. the reality seems to me that the various revivals have become a christian drug culture, not at all an agent of God's mission to the creation God loves. so when i see people 'toking on the baby Jesus' (if you didn't follow that link now you will ;o) i go, well yes. actually i am beginning to wonder if those guys are about to 'come out' as fakes exposing the charismatic culture...or have i really become too sceptical? well there are plenty of really clever 'Christian fakes' on the net already!<br /><br />But here's the rub for me. last weekend i was at the big Mind Body Spirit Festival in London as part of <span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_1">Dekhomai</span> <a href="http://dekhomai.co.uk/">http://dekhomai.co.uk/</a> tens of thousands come looking not for some intellectual religious debate, or religious tradition, what they long for is real encounter, spiritual reality that can be felt. Many have left the Church because it offers none of that reality, it feels to them a dead religion going through the memory of past faith. These people and i think most people in our emerging culture will only find authentic a Charismatic Christianity. This is i think the real challenge, both to the revivalists, most of whom would never enter a Mind Body Spirit fair, and though they have the experience of the Spirit so easily turn into something that <span class="blsp-spelling-corrected" id="SPELLING_ERROR_2">endlessly</span> blesses themselves and so <span class="blsp-spelling-corrected" id="SPELLING_ERROR_3">starves</span> the <span class="blsp-spelling-corrected" id="SPELLING_ERROR_4">world</span>. but also to the '<span class="blsp-spelling-corrected" id="SPELLING_ERROR_5">emergents'</span> who may too easily reject the Charismatic and find themselves in the world totally <span class="blsp-spelling-corrected" id="SPELLING_ERROR_6">ill equipped</span> <span class="blsp-spelling-corrected" id="SPELLING_ERROR_7">against</span> the burgeoning New <span class="blsp-spelling-corrected" id="SPELLING_ERROR_8">Spiritualities</span> that may well simply 'show them up'.<br /><br />somewhere in there is the faith i strive for, fully <span class="blsp-spelling-corrected" id="SPELLING_ERROR_9">Charismatic</span> and fully engaged, rejecting the <span class="blsp-spelling-corrected" id="SPELLING_ERROR_10">dualist</span> theology of so many Charismatics for full Christ incarnation, really <span class="blsp-spelling-corrected" id="SPELLING_ERROR_11">equipped</span> to be Christ's Body with the world and not hidden from it or against it. and honest too, i think that matters.Stevehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04475918926743850643noreply@blogger.com5tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14624038.post-31344166537316396842007-10-24T15:22:00.000+00:002007-10-26T10:36:37.800+00:00Removing Christendom from HalloweenHalloween is a controversial subject in many ways, several folks I know and respect in the UK have been campaigning to get alternatives to horror movie imagery available in shops, with some success. others worry about the increasingly global practice of trick or treat. Christians worry about occultism, witchcraft, and obsession with death and the dead. Pagans want to reclaim their festival from the Christians and the shops. So why do i as a Christian want to suggest that Christendom is the major problem here and want to remove it from Halloween?<br /><br />Firstly note I said Christendom and not Christianity, but the two are of course linked in the churches history. so lets take a brief tour of the history of Halloween, familiar territory but I hope to add a few insights that may lie behind the current controversy on route and show why I want to get Christendom removed from Halloween.<br /><br />firstly before there was Halloween there was a Pagan festival in northern Europe at least called Samhain (pronounced sow-ain) this was a version of the 'day of the dead' known in many cultures. The dead were remembered, ancestors honoured and the line between death and life was seen as thin at this time. This meant things could cross over, the dead might walk abroad, and other creatures associated with the underworld too. this meant the festival was also about confronting fear and acknowledging the fear of death and the unknown.<br /><br />when Christianity spread across Europe the missionaries often adopted Pagan custom because they felt it explained the new faith in terms people understood and because it helped cement the new faith in people's lives by getting into the character of previously Pagan festivals. Christmas is another case in point. it is for this reason that the feast of All Hallows, we would now say All Saints, was placed on the 1st of November, following the old Samhain festival crossing from nighttime on the 31st of October to morning of the 1st of November. following Jewish tradition early Christian festivals began on the evening of the previous day, as happens today at the Christmas Eve services. So the festival of All Hallows began at All Hallows Eve, that is Halloween. as such the very name of the festival tells us it is a Christian rather than a Pagan festival, albeit one deliberately adopting a Pagan predecessor. This is significant I would argue as many of the controversies of Halloween today come from its Christendom history.<br /><br />The churches at All Hallows continued the remembrance of the dead, and added to this a particular remembrance of the lives of the saints, hence the name All Hallows. However a strong element of Christian faith is life beyond death and the theme of resurrection, indeed from the 1st century the idea that in Jesus death the power of evil and death were conquered was a central tenet of faith. So this was celebrated also, altering the character of the Pagan exploration of death at this time. in this sense i think the Christianization of the older festival was a good adaptation of the important themes Samhain explored appropriate for those with a Christian faith.<br /><br />But Christendom was also a political animal and part of its agenda was to ensure it had no rivals. so Halloween became peopled with devils and ghouls that might get those who misbehaved and witches created as a propaganda tool against the persistence of Pagan faith as an underground religion. i find it interesting to compare the Halloween witches mask with the Nazi depiction of Jews, you will find them rather similar with hooked noses, green skin and warts. and this is the bit so many folks don't get, the wearing of these masks at Halloween is not a celebration of evil or witchcraft, but actually a piece of anti-Pagan propaganda invented by Christians and stemming from medieval Christian celebrations of All Hallows Eve.<br /><br />today of course as with so many things Christendom has passed and the Halloween legacy handed over to those who have commercialised it, creating the Halloween that churches now complain about rather than celebrate. oddly i think the Passing of Christendom possibly unites rather than divides modern Pagans and Christians in this area. Pagans want to celebrate an important festival they do not want it turned into a commercial bonanza devoid of its true meaning, and i certainly doubt they'd morn the passing of the anti-pagan propaganda imagery of medieval Christendom. Christians too want to celebrate their different but related festival without these things, having ironically forgotten how much of what they now don't like was their invention. so how about a properly informed collaboration between Pagans and Christians to remove Christendom from Halloween? leaving both faiths free to celebrate a festival centred around their beliefs about the important subject of death and the relationship with our dead ancestors?<br /><br />if we do this i add one thing that should not be banished, a place to also acknowledge our fear of death, the supernatural and evil. banishing the imagery of this from Halloween won't take away the fear, it just relegates it to places where we cannot face it together and handle it constructively, if differently in our two faith traditions. so i make a plea for renewed celebrations not to lose this element at least from both the medieval Halloween and its Pagan forerunner.<br /><br /><span style="font-size:85%;"></span><br />these are the links to the Halloween synchroblog, and they are very eclectic and also come from different faith views, so well worth checking out<br /><span style="font-size:85%;"></span><br /><span style="font-size:85%;">The Christians and the Pagans Meet for Samhain at </span><a href="http:///"><span style="font-size:85%;">Phil Wyman's Square No More</span></a><br /><span style="font-size:85%;"> Our Own Private Zombie: Death and the Spirit of Fear by </span><a href="http://lainiepetersen.com/?p=77"><span style="font-size:85%;">Lainie Petersen</span></a><br /><span style="font-size:85%;"> Julie Clawson at </span><a href="http://julieclawson.blogspot.com/"><span style="font-size:85%;">One Hand Clapping</span></a><br /><span style="font-size:85%;"> John Morehead at </span><a href="http://johnwmorehead.blogspot.com/"><span style="font-size:85%;">John Morehead's Musings</span></a><br /><span style="font-size:85%;"> Vampire Protection by </span><a href="http://www.calacirian.org/?"p="'683"><span style="font-size:85%;">Sonja Andrews</span></a><br /><span style="font-size:85%;"> What's So Bad About Halloween? at </span><a href="http:///"><span style="font-size:85%;">Igneous Quill</span></a><br /><span style="font-size:85%;"> H-A-double-L-O-double-U-double-E-N </span><a href="http:///"><span style="font-size:85%;">Erin Word</span></a><br /><span style="font-size:85%;"> Halloween....why all the madness? by </span><a href="http:///"><span style="font-size:85%;">Reba Baskett</span></a><br /><span style="font-size:85%;"> Steve Hayes at </span><a href="http://khanya.wordpress.com/2007/10/15/"><span style="font-size:85%;">Notes from the Underground</span></a><br /><span style="font-size:85%;"> KW Leslie at </span><a href="http://kwleslie.blogspot.com/"><span style="font-size:85%;">The Evening of Kent</span></a><br /><span style="font-size:85%;"> Hallmark Halloween by </span><a href="http://johnsmulo.com/"><span style="font-size:85%;">John Smulo</span></a><br /><span style="font-size:85%;"> Mike Bursell at </span><a href="http://www.p2ptrust.org/blog/"><span style="font-size:85%;">Mike's Musings</span></a><br /><span style="font-size:85%;"> Sam Norton at </span><a href="http:///"><span style="font-size:85%;">Elizaphanian</span></a><br /><span style="font-size:85%;"> Removing Christendom from Halloween at </span><a href="http:///"><span style="font-size:85%;">On Earth as in Heaven</span></a><br /><span style="font-size:85%;"> Vampires or Leeches: A conversation about making the Day of the Dead meaningful by </span><a href="http://www.davidwmfisher.blogspot.com/"><span style="font-size:85%;">David Fisher</span></a><span style="font-size:85%;"><br />Encountering hallow-tide creatively by </span><a href="http:///"><span style="font-size:85%;">Sally Coleman</span></a><br /><span style="font-size:85%;"> Kay at </span><a href="http://www.chaoticspirit.com/"><span style="font-size:85%;">Chaotic Spirit</span></a><br /><span style="font-size:85%;"> Apples and Razorblades at </span><a href="http:///"><span style="font-size:85%;">Johnny Beloved</span></a><br /><span style="font-size:85%;"> Steve Hayes at </span><a href="http://khanya.wordpress.com/2007/10/15/"><span style="font-size:85%;">Notes from the Underground</span></a><br /><span style="font-size:85%;"> Fall Festivals and Scary Masks at </span><a href="http:///"><span style="font-size:85%;">The Assembling of the Church</span></a><br /><span style="font-size:85%;"> Why Christians don't like Zombies at </span><a href="http:///"><span style="font-size:85%;">Hollow Again</span></a><br /><span style="font-size:85%;"> Peering through the negatives of mission </span><a href="http:///"><span style="font-size:85%;">Paul Walker</span></a><br /><span style="font-size:85%;"> Sea Raven at </span><a href="http://www.gaiarising.org/blog.html"><span style="font-size:85%;">Gaia Rising</span></a><br /><span style="font-size:85%;"> Halloween: My experiences by </span><a href="http://blog.the-pursuit.net/"><span style="font-size:85%;">Lew A</span></a><br /><span style="font-size:85%;"> Timothy Victor at </span><a href="http://timvictor.wordpress.com/2007/10/23/"><span style="font-size:85%;">Tim Victor's Musings</span></a><br /><span style="font-size:85%;"> Making Space for Halloween by </span><a href="http:///"><span style="font-size:85%;">Nic Paton</span></a><span style="font-size:85%;"><br /><br /></span><br /></span><br /></span><span style="font-size:0;"></span>Stevehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04475918926743850643noreply@blogger.com15tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14624038.post-30261594337241500882007-07-13T00:25:00.000+00:002007-07-13T02:07:41.397+00:00U-Topia or My-Topia (synchroblog)many of us dream of utopias, but what of these dreams? i find the U in utopia something worth reflecting on. we all have our dreams of the perfect world, our utopia. what would your perfect world be? i can certainly offer some thoughts of the world i'd like to live in. but would this be my world, a me world, a my-topia? now i don't see myself as a selfish person, my dreams of utopia when i am honest or perhaps i should say responding to the deep levels of who i am, are not the dreams of personal gratification, though like all people i have those! but are my visions of the best for all really just that, MY dreams? i fear it may be so easy for my vision of our perfect world to be just that. indeed it is so easy for us to asume my-topia is your-topia is u-topia.<br /><br />so how do we find u-topia, our-topia? i have two thoughts. the first relates to the 'u'. i suspect it begins when I strive not for My- topia but for U-topia, when my goal becomes building a dream world for 'u', when i look to build a world for others, for 'u'. but secondly where is the place i can escape my own weakness, my own self-vision? for me this lies in the vision of God. Jesus didn't come preaching church, or a religious system, or how to worship in a particular style; he came preaching the Kingdom of God, a true utopia. a vision of freedom for captives, sight for blind, good news for poor...this is u-topia, a vision i need beacuase mine will fall so far short. it reminds me i need God's spirit to make this true to inspire me to make my-topia u-topia<br /><br />see others below<br /><br />Steve Hayes at <a href="http://methodius.blogspot.com/">Notes from <br />the Underground</a><br />John Morehead at <a href="http://johnwmorehead.blogspot.com/">John <br />Morehead's Musings</a><br />Nudity, Innocence, and Christian Distopia at <a href="http://<br />squarenomore.blogspot.com/">Phil Wyman's Square No More</a><br />Utopia Today: Living Above Consumerism at <a href="http://<br />www.davidwmfisher.blogspot.com/">Be the Revolution</a><br />Nowhere Will Be Here at <a href="http://<br />igneousquill.blogspot.com/">Igneous Quill</a><br />A This-Worldly Faith at <a href="http://<br />elizaphanian.blogspot.com/">Elizaphanian</a><br />Bridging the Gap at <a href="http://www.calacirian.org/">Calacirian</a><br />The Ostrich and the Utopian Myth at <a href="http://<br />decompressingfaith.blogspot.com/">Decompressing Faith</a><br />Being Content in the Present at <a href="http://<br />julieclawson.blogspot.com/">One Hand Clapping</a><br />Eternity in their Hearts by <a href="http://<br />timabbott.typepad.com">Tim Abbott</a><br />Relationship - The catch-22 of the Internet Utopia at <a href="http://<br />gatheringhillman.blogspot.com">Jeremiah's Blog</a><br />U-topia or My-topia? at <a href="http://<br />onearthasinheaven.blogspot.com/">On Earth as in Heaven</a><br />A SecondLife Utopia at <a href="http://www.p2ptrust.org/blog/">Mike's <br />Musings</a><br />Mrs. Brown and the Kingdom of God at <a href="http://<br />sallysjourney.typepad.com/sallys_journey/2007/07/mrs-brown-and-<br />e.html">Eternal Echoes</a>Stevehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04475918926743850643noreply@blogger.com4tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14624038.post-69343875118916597782007-05-16T14:26:00.000+00:002007-05-16T21:48:12.635+00:00The Gospel according to Buffy (synchroblog)This is part of a SynchroBlog on Christianity and film, follow the links below for others taking part, and enter the debate on this and other sites!<br /><br />the Vampire genre as classically represented by the Dracula character, has within it Christendom assumptions. vampires are undead, without souls and damned by God. they are warded off by Crosses and Holy Water. communion wafers placed in their coffins render them homeless. the average vampire slayer is some sort of a priest. so what happens to vampire slaying in a post-Christendom world?<br /><br />Enter Buffy the Vampire Slayer, an American teen who only enters churches in the dead of night to fight vampires rising from coffins. She uses crosses and Holy water but these seem no longer to connect to any faith, they have become magic charms. here superhuman strength and kung fu fighting skills, given her by ancient shamanic priests who created the slayers to fight demons and vampires, are far more important than the remnants of Christianity. over seven series she gathers round her other US teens who with her go through high school and enter young adult life. none of these either seems to have a faith, save one who starts the series Jewish and part way through becomes a practicing Wiccan.<br /><br />at the start of the second series our heroine encounters a group of evangelists working with down an outs in a city centre district. but they are in fact demons in disguise, enslaving and ultimately destroying the people they claim to help. the final series sees the gang battling the 'ultimate evil', whose sidekick is a misogynist priest in black with collar, who brutal murders people. apart from this churches are sometimes settings for weddings or funerals. The Buffyverse is clearly not a place where God, and certainly not the church, is involved in the fight against evil. this instead must fall to Buffy. so how does she defeat the 'ultimate evil', and what are the messages that make up the 'gospel according to Buffy'?<br /><br />Buffy needs to be seen operating on two levels. at one level the various monsters faced are less important then the background situations. At this level Buffy is about the difficulties of school, friendship, romance, finding ones identity etc etc. this is handled with a mixture of humour and some depth. the key messages are about the importance of friendship, sacrifice for others, the shallowness of popularity, the importance of goals in life, the embracing of those of different cultures and sexualities, and above all the empowerment of women in a man's world and the taking of responsibility for ones own life and facing it's challenges head on.<br /><br />on another level Buffy and her friends fight demons and vampires and every now and then have to save the world. Evil is overcome week by week through Buffy's powers, Willow the Wiccan's magic and the study of ancient texts followed by resourceful action of those who are part of 'Buffy's gang'. the values seen in the plot lines become the key to these victories too.<br /><br />But there are other themes too. In the 7th and final series redemption becomes a major theme. a number of key characters manage to accumulate or come with some very dodgy pasts. At the top of the list is Spike the vampire, he has spent a good century plus murdering and draining life. He first appears as a major opponent of Buffy but as the series progress he falls 'in love with her' in inverted commas, vampires have no soul and love is rather challenging for them. Buffy sort of falls for him, but there's a subtext of her own self doubt which becomes sometimes self loathing, coupled with her appalling track record of relationships, and an attraction to those she becomes locked in combat with, that makes this not quite 'healthy'. always likely to end in tears, that include obsession, rage and at one stage attempted rape of Buffy by Spike. at the end of series 6 Spike has gone to see if he can be given back his soul and return to Buffy a changed vampire. then there's the Wiccan Willow, a key member of the gang, but in series 5 suffering magic addiction, the episodes are i think intended to explore drug addiction but i can assure magic addiction is very similar in real life. like any addict she messes up her life and those around her. in series 6 her girlfriend (she has by this stage 'come out' as lesbian, and i think this is handled like many other issues well) is shot and killed, by accident Buffy is the intended victim. Willow enters grief that turns to rage that fuels an apocalyptic magic spree that makes her 'mad, bad and dangerous to know'. she also flays alive the murder of her girlfriend, possibly the most brutal crime committed by anyone in the entire run of series. at the end of series 6 she is destroying the world, literally. then there's Faith, a slayer called on one of the occasions Buffy dies and is later bought back...it becomes an occupational hazard for her... Faith has 'issues' and they mean she finds it hard to trust and work with others. this leads her to abuse her powers, kill humans and ultimately help the evil mayor become a giant demonic serpent (yes this is the regular buffyverse in operation...but i must say i was hooked and loved almost every minute, its ability to not take itself too seriously making up for the plot lines! ). but we haven't finished! then there's Anya, a vengeance demon used to helping wronged women deliver gruesome ends to their male abusers. And finally there's Andrew, part occultist part nerd. it was the leader of his group that killed Willow's girlfriend and gets flayed alive as a result. this character comes back, but it's really the 'ultimate evil' that can be 'ant dead person it wants to be', and persuades Andrew to ritually kill his best friend to open a satanic seal in the school basement. and so as we enter series 7 a motley crew who need to be redeemed are part of the plot.<br /><br />so redemption in a world in which the church is pretty unlikely to play a part. well for each character it works out, and not 'lightly', indeed often very movingly. so interesting that the theme of can the bad people be redeemed, is so positively handled. so what happens? we'll save Spike till last, because his role becomes so important! but at this point let us say he does indeed go to hell and get his soul back...itself interesting, after 'testing' by a demon he gets his soul, though this gets strangely related to the ghost of Christendom as he tells this to Buffy in a darkened church and then embraces a cross, which burns his vampire flesh, soul or no soul. BTW the experience of getting his soul has driven him half mad. Faith returns and through experiences when her self willed bravado lead to bad ends, learns to trust and work with others. Andrew has lived in a fantasy world in which he turns life into comic strip stories to avoid facing the truth. eventually Buffy forces him to confront his actions and his tears of repentance close the demonic seal he opened. Anya having gone back to her vengeance ways is going <span>to</span> be killed by Buffy, but she gets a another chance, which involves her getting her soul back to in a rather 'interesting' take on penal substitution. OK i have no idea if that is how the producer saw it but hear me out! she has to ask for it again from a demon, who says that he will grant it but he must take a demons life in forfeit, we all assume it will be Anya's but she is willing for the price to be paid believing she will she will have to pay it. But the demon has other ideas, and kills an other demon who has been Anya's friend, so an other's life pays the necessary price! this neatly gets Anya to the end of the series but is not viewed in a 'positive light'. Willow is stopped by a friend's love, in the face of her initially wounding him with her destructive magic, and 'the true source of magic' that is working for good in her. clearly magic is a source of good even if the church isn't.<br /><br />so to the battle against the ultimate evil, and the part of the redeemed and especially Spike in that. you see at this point there's a problem. Buffy has fought off various evils and potential apocalypses, but this is 'the ultimate evil' working with an army of 'ultimate vampires'. in a universe devoid of ultimate good it seems, and reliant on human endeavour, how can Buffy defeat the ultimate evil? well she'll clearly need some help, so Faith the renegade slayer returns, then there is an army of young women who are potential slayers who come ti join in, then there's a magic scythe forged by ancient pagan priestesses for just such a day. armed so they enter the final battle with one further twist, Willow uses the power of the scythe to enable all women to become powerful slayers, empowering not only the potentials but other women abused and oppressed around the globe. as she performs the spell she glows with white light and, in the words of her new girlfriend, becomes a goddess. but even all this is not enough! enter Spike, soul returned madness subdued and a number of painful past issues faced, wearing some jewel intended for a champion. as the battle commences the jewel 'comes to life' a great shaft of light descends from the ceiling to the Jewel which then starts to scatter the light out destroying the super vampires. ' i can feel it' he declares, 'i can feel my soul, it's really there'. and so after an emotional reconciliation between Spike and Buffy she flees after the others, as Spike stays to die in the destruction of the forces of the ultimate evil. the end.<br /><br />but what kind of end? it is perhaps not surprising if Churches are simply scary places full of demons, evangelists are demonic forces praying on the vulnerably and priests are misogynist devil worshipers bent on brutality that it is to Pagan priestesses, Wiccan magic, mystic weapons, empowered women and good honest human spirit that we must turn to face the ultimate evil. it is easy to dismiss this is be angry with it, but this is how many see the church and Christianity, and we have bought some of this on ourselves. what kind of church might be a force for good in the Buffyverse where evil must be fought and redemption is so important and sensitively handled? on the other hand if we are to leave the modern world in which the demonic and the 'ultimate evil' are as much a fairytale as the Christan God. if we are to enter a world in which supernatural evil is real, how can we fight it? in the end some strange mystic light needs<span> to </span>come and finish off the job, indeed we need God by the back door. but which God in what form? unless the church can become something other than the caricature of the Buffyverse, then what God will come to fill this place?<br /><br />follow the links to the other blogs in this series<br /><br /><span style="font-size:78%;">Steve Hayes ponders <a href="http://methodius.blogspot.com/">The Image of Christianity in Films</a><br />Sally Coleman is <a href="http://sallysjourney.typepad.com/">Making Connections- films as a part of a mythological tradition</a><br />Adam Gonnerman pokes at <a href="http:///">The Spider's Pardon</a> </span><br /><span style="font-size:78%;">David Fisher thinks that <a href="http://davidwmfisher.blogspot.com/">Jesus Loves Sci-Fi</a> </span><br /><span style="font-size:78%;">John Morehead considers <a href="http:///">Christians and Horror Redux: From Knee- Jerk Revulsion to Critical Engagement</a> </span><br /><span style="font-size:78%;">Marieke Schwartz lights it up with <a href="http://raininggrace.blogspot.com/">Counter-hegemony: Jesus loves Borat</a> </span><br /><span style="font-size:78%;">Mike Bursell muses about <a href="http://www.p2ptrust.org/">Christianity at the Movies</a> </span><br /><span style="font-size:78%;">Jenelle D'Alessandro tells us <a href="http:///">Why Bjork Will Never Act Again</a> </span><br /><span style="font-size:78%;">Cobus van Wyngaard contemplates <a href="http:///">Theology and Film (as art)</a> </span><br /><span style="font-size:78%;">Tim Abbott tells us to <a href="http://timabbott.typepad.com/">Bring your own meaning...?</a><br />Sonja Andrews visits <a href="http://www.calacirian.org/">The Good, The Bad, and The Ugly: Christ in Spaghetti Westerns</a> </span><span style="font-size:78%;">Steve Hollinghurst takes a stab at <a href="http:///">The Gospel According to Buffy</a> </span><br /><span style="font-size:78%;">Les Chatwin insists <a href="http://lchatwin.blogspot.com/">We Don't Need Another Hero</a></span><br /><span style="font-size:78%;">Lance Cummings says <a href="http://lanceelyot.wordpress.com/">The Wooden Wheel Keeps Turning</a><br />John Smulo weaves a tale about <a href="http:///">Spiderman 3 and the Shadow</a><br />Josh Rivera spells well with <a href="http:///">Christian Witchcraft</a> </span><br /><span style="font-size:78%;">Phil Wyman throws out the <a href="http://squarenomore.blogspot.com/">Frisbee: Time to Toss it Back</a><br />Dr. Kim Paffenroth investigates <a href="http:///">Nihilism Lite</a></span>Stevehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04475918926743850643noreply@blogger.com11tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14624038.post-73967276392304864232007-03-25T22:04:00.000+00:002007-03-26T08:08:43.942+00:00a guilty conscience?Firstly sorry for such a long gap - assuming anyone is out there to read this by now ;o)<br /><br />OK currently writing a book (part of reason for long gap!) a thought that came to me in this I wanted to share here....<br /><br />The preaching of the gospel in much evangelism centers on forgiveness. It offers a model of salvation geared to God in Jesus paying the penalty we are due because of the things for which we are rightly judged guilty. OK there is a whole debate to be had surrounding that understanding. But at this point I am just reflecting on why in the modernist period it has become the predominant model of salvation, even this is shown by it being the model to reject. I think this has a lot to do with the place of the conscience.<br /><br />As the medieval world moved into the modern, via the renaissance and then the enlightenment, society moved its centre from and ordered and re-ordained hierarchy to the autonomous individual. Morality in the old order was something ordained from above, taught by the church, socialized by your community and enforced by divinely appointed rulers. In modernity morality became a matter of personal decision, and a humanly appointed state became an enforcer of a legal but not necessarily moral order. Rationality ruled the public sphere but could only pronounce on benefit, and a utilitarian common good. It was up to you to supply from within yourself what was right and good. Hence the rising importance of the individual conscience.<br /><br />The humanist could affirm the conscience because it sprang from within the person and with an optimistic view of humanity would be a sure guide. The Christian could affirm this by seeing the conscience as a 'divine spark' God convicting us of sin. Sin would thus lead to a guilty conscience. A guilty conscience needed someone to remove the guilt and pronounce pardon, to assure us of forgiveness where we knew judgment was due. This is exactly what the evangelistic preaching of the gospel of penal substitution offered.<br /><br />But what might have been happening? The problem is that the idea of conversion as an individual decision based on a personal guilty conscience as a true guide is deeply dependent on a modernist view of humanity. this view both views me as an individual and secondly as a positive individual who is, if I can truly connect with myself , an individual whose reason and reaction will indeed be true. What if actually my conscience is false? What if I feel no guilt for that which God might condemn me, or feel guilt for that of which I should feel none? what if taking that into account, and in today's world both those seem to be true, my guilt was not a product of a divinely guided conscience but a product of a lapsed Christendom in which me guilt was induced by past church experience and thus able to be revived by contemporary church preaching?<br /><br />If this were the real situation of the guilty conscience, then the gospel portrayed as freedom from the penalty we deserved as guilty would only be good news to those raised in Christendom. And such seems to be the case. further to this Bonhoeffer is surely correct to suggest so much preaching is about 'sniffing around in other peoples dustbins hoping to catch them out' indeed the evangelist must induce guilt if not found in order to preach its relief. OK most people do suffer feelings of guilt, but they are both often different from what Christianity suggests we ought to feel guilty about, and increasingly assuaged by the sentiment 'well I’m only human' which in modernity and especially post modernity is a perfectly good justification (I don't think it is as a Christian by the way). further to this, as the power of Christendom guilt wears off, the preaching of a gospel geared to it leads to a rejection of the gospel, either as a crutch for the weak and guilty, that is people worse than me, or as something that is moralizing and guilt inducing when no guilt is due. The gospel becomes either at best good news for the truly bad (i.e. only a few) or bad news full stop.<br /><br />now none of this as I see it is to suggest, as indeed many do faced with such a gospel, that people do not need saving from what Paul would call 'the power of sin and death'. I believe we do, and need to proclaim such a gospel. My point is that this was given a peculiar modernist form in the concept of the guilty conscience that is now increasingly unhelpful. A gospel based on it is increasingly no 'good news' at all.<br /><br />However, if this is so, it does not seem that people don’t dream of being 'better'. One of the interesting things to come out of the 'beyond the fringe' research was that peoples personal aspirations, not surprisingly, where for happiness, family, relationships and success. however more surprisingly people on the whole didn’t chose those who had achieved this as those hey admired, rather they chose, Gandhi, Mother Teresa, Martin Luther King, Nelson Mandela, and yes Jesus. Might they secretly wish they could be like that too? Might the gospel that frees us from sin and death be the gospel that says, actually you can be like Jesus? Might preaching what we could become, rather than seeking to make us feel guilty for what we are, be not only 'good news' for today?Stevehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04475918926743850643noreply@blogger.com17tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14624038.post-1165268970562078472006-12-04T21:29:00.000+00:002006-12-04T21:49:30.646+00:00Ideology and God part 2I'm a big fan of the current crop of US crime shows, CSI, without a trace, and crminal minds. we get them late in the UK so apologies to US readers, but last week criminal minds (was a feb edition in US i discover!) ended with Mandy Patinkin delivering a great quote from French playwright Eugene Ionesco. "Ideologies separate us. Dreams and anguish bring us together."<br />this spoke to me very much of what i was grasping at in my earlier post on 'is God and idealist'.<br /><br />the Ianesco quote has quite a web presence, much of it quote sites but there are some other pearls on them from Ianesco, but also some comment worth checking. I am not surprised others are grabbed by it too!<br /><br />for me it says this: ideology is that thing people create when they want the answers sown up so they can say who is right and who is wrong, or in or out, or good or bad....ultimatley ideology is the means of exclusion of making a world of division of 'them and us'. but it says more than this, 'dreams and anguish unite us'. now the last part for me makes clear sense, the common struggle of the human expereince draws us togehter, often releases compassion, even for those we thought we despised or feared despised us. but what of those dreams? do our dreams unite us? on a superficial level perhaps not, indeed my dream may be your nightmare...and the state exists to make sure it does not become so, but struggles to acheive this....indeed should it achieve this? but at another level there is something here, when i get beyond the dreams of persoanl indulgence, of my own comfort, and begin to dream fro all, of the world i wish all could share, of my dreams for justice, for peace, for laughter and delight in life for all....are these dreams that really do unite us?<br /><br />for me this is what the mission of God is about, the ushering in of the kingdom, the dream of jusitice love and life for all creation and not just humanity at creations expense or one person's at the expense of another's. i am reminded from preaching recently about Halloween and the Allhallows season, that Paul reminds us we have no human enemies, and Jesus tells us that our enemies are indeed to be treated as out friends, not the ideology that divdes, but the dream of the kingdom come on earth as in heaven that unites and blesses all and soothes our common anguish.<br /><br />but does the church live this......do I live this?Stevehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04475918926743850643noreply@blogger.com9tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14624038.post-1160563146364202402006-10-11T10:22:00.000+00:002006-10-11T10:41:50.220+00:00Interview/ Hong Kong meeting<a href="http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/1593/836/1600/DSCF1530.jpg"><img style="FLOAT: left; MARGIN: 0px 10px 10px 0px; WIDTH: 205px; CURSOR: hand; HEIGHT: 142px" height="173" alt="" src="http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/1593/836/320/DSCF1530.jpg" width="263" border="0" /></a><br />John Smulo who blogs at 'smulo space' <a href="http://johnsmulo.typepad.com/">http://johnsmulo.typepad.com/</a> has just published a two part interview with me. John was someone I met at a recent gathering in Hong Kong, a group of us under the auspices of the Lausanne committee for World Evangelization looking at new spiritualities. A fascinating group of people from Australia, the US, UK and Denmark, but also meeting with those connecting with the Taoist and Buddhist faiths in the east. We have a lot to learn from each other! Check out john's blog, there's some good stuff!<br /><br />we met at Tao Fong Shan (above) a Christian monastery built on the lines of a Buddhist one, using Feng Shui! Worship in 'the Christ temple' was in Chinese style fused with western tradition. The surroundings themselves asking us the kind of questions we grappled with. Can a Christian use feng shui, or for that matter Tarot. To communicate the Christina message? Is this potentially to compromise ones faith, or at the other end is it a con trick on those who follow such practices? alternatively can we see the spirit of God at work in 'unlikely places'?<br />personally i think God speaks through many things and Christian have no monopoly on this! for me this doesn't compromise my belief that Jesus Christ has a place in the spiritul search of all people, but i hope it should keep us a bit more humble and open than we sometimes can be. i'll post some more on this but for know what do you think?Stevehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04475918926743850643noreply@blogger.com5tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14624038.post-1157309714965738122006-09-03T18:50:00.000+00:002006-09-03T18:57:02.746+00:00Have pastors become shopkeepers?As ever Bob Carlton has found a really interesting piece to put on his blog <a href="http://thecorner.typepad.com/bc/2006/08/eugene_peterson.html">http://thecorner.typepad.com/bc/2006/08/eugene_peterson.html</a><br /><br />the basic idea is that pastors have turned into keepers of a 'shop' called 'church' and behave like marketers and consumer pleasers in order to make their own shop successful. Read the article by Eugene Peterson (of 'the message' fame) and see what you think? My starter is that such could be true of many seeking to make church evangelistic in today's culture, so is this a stark warning or a reactionary misinterpretation?Stevehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04475918926743850643noreply@blogger.com25tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14624038.post-1153179677545214142006-07-17T23:22:00.000+00:002006-08-01T15:15:06.266+00:00Is God an idealist?OK kind of sounds a stupid question, of course God is an idealist and Christians should be idealists. I am inclined that way myself too! But recently I keep hearing things that make me ask the question with more seriousness. Firstly someone who had written a book on Israel and its troubled history, for her the idealists were the problem, the people sure they were right and prepared to fight for their truth. I heard and understood, but? More recently a discussion on Nazi Germany, if I remember the quote, but this is pretty close if not bang on, 'the vast majority of people who commited these atrocities were not bad people, they believed what they were doing was good, but they where convinced by ideology and this is what enables good people to do evil things'. This by the way was a commentary on Shakespeare plays, and a profound one. The moral? It was the pragmatists who if you like held the moral heigh ground. The ones who valued community, the brining on of all people over the ideology of a certain group.<br /><br />as an Anglican priest this has a lot of resonances with the current issues that threaten separation in the world wide Anglican communion. But then the issue cuts in all directions, we aren't just talking about those idealist, we are talking about ours. I am talking about my ideals which I hope are drawn out of God, but may in truth be a part of the idol we all build and call God. Can pragmatism in this sense be a means of a divine discovery, of God beyond our own construction of God?<br /><br />mm. Perhaps the issue is what ideology? If it is to grow the church, to bring people to Christ, to help this nation to be Christian, perhaps then and in so many other ways, all we do is mold the gospel to our likekness. perahaps God does have an ideaology, but one that wants everyone in, that is not interested in preserving this or that doctirine (look at the way the prophets spoke of isreal's worship or how jesus acted toward it). perhaps 'compromise' may hold the deepest value of all, that which is seeking the kingdom of God above my ideaology, which will bear with others seeking that kingdom, beacause it is a kingdom for all.<br /><br />there is a mission lesson here i think. the mission of God is about reconcillaiation not exclusion, to many ideologies want to exclude and not to reconcile. OK reconsilalitation at any price? well God gave his life for it, what price will we pay? what price am i prepared to pay?Stevehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04475918926743850643noreply@blogger.com13tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14624038.post-1150669536667269042006-06-18T22:22:00.000+00:002006-06-18T22:25:36.676+00:00God is a DJThanks to the man who seems to live online and comes up with some real gems, Bob Carlton. follow this link to a couple of awesome little vids... i particualry love the first one, just how difficult is it to solve the worlds problems with some decks? and check out Bob's blog too <a href="http://thecorner.typepad.com/bc/2006/06/god_is_a_dj_whi.html">http://thecorner.typepad.com/bc/2006/06/god_is_a_dj_whi.html</a>Stevehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04475918926743850643noreply@blogger.com2